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Stood out in the rain for an hour waiting for the cops. Back door gap is off, spare tires ripped off, exhaust leaking, and bumper a little worse for wear. Nicole is fine. We were able to joke about her needing to go to the hospital as she was on her way to work there. No injuries.
UPDATE : Looks like the RX will live on. They quoted $2500 to repair(including pulling the frame back). I am going to have my dads shop go through it top to bottom after the body shop is done to make sure everything is in safe operating condition for the wife. Now I have to figure out the “Loss of Value” claim I am going to ask the insurance company for. I reached out to the Lexus dealer we bought it from and am waiting to hear back. Also, is it just me or is two weeks from the date of the accident way too long to just now be finding out what the verdict is?
UPDATE 2.0 : The RX is coming back tomorrow or Saturday! There was minor frame adjustments that needed done but I talked with my dad and he said that he wouldn’t be worried about it. Lexus got all of the parts to the body shop and they are getting it done pretty quick. It will be nice to be back to three cars though having to drive the ISF has been kind of nice.
Usually I would have tried to get it off the road but since the lady was uninsured, I was not touching anything until the police arrived.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:29 |
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Damn, that sucks! Glad she was OK! Illegally uninsured, or is insurance not required where you live?
(as far as I know, it is mandatory here in Canada)
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:34 |
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Illegally uninsured and from the way the cop was talking, more than likely illegally living in this country.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:35 |
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Glad it’s not worse. Do you guys have uninsured/under-insured motorist coverage?
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:35 |
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Hope your insurance is covering
it no question!
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:36 |
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Yup! My parents also said the insurance we have(USAA) are awesome to deal with.
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I think every state except for New Hampshire, Arizona, and Virginia explicitly requires insurance, although the required minimums do vary.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:37 |
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Same here. I don’t have time to deal with some bs
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:42 |
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Battle of the beige. Tall beige won.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:44 |
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Glad you’re wife is safe. Fuck uninsured drivers. Complete scumbags.
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Glad to hear your both okay.
I hate people who don’t drive with due care and attention and especially ones that a re driving impaired due to drink or drugs and those that drive with no licence, insurance or a vehicle without any required safety inspection. I hope the other driver gets hauled over the coals for driving without due care and attention, failure to stop short and driving without insurance.
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Tall beige may have internal hemorrhaging that kills it at a later point though.
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Luckily once the cops were there it was as simple as any other accident for us. We were on our way in 10 minutes so my wife could get to the hospital. It’s everything from this point on out that I’m worried about.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:48 |
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I’m both glad her car was inoperable and she had a kid because the car kept her from running and the kid kept me from taking her over the coals myself. I told my wife I was proud of how she handled it all though. No tears, no ranting, she just let me get there and handle it all. Made it pretty easy.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 20:58 |
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Bloody hell, as if driving without due care and attention and no insurance was bad enough, she was doing it with a kid in the car.
I give up on this world.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:00 |
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Kill the uninsured.
....to far?
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:05 |
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USAA is the best!
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“Kill the Uninsured” - a GOP primer on healthcare
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:07 |
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Arizona explicitly requires insurance.
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Mmm. I forgot Americans always go to health when insurance is mentioned
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:34 |
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Oh I am sure it will be fine, Toyolex are indestructable, right? :)
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:35 |
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I really don’t get how we have uninsured cars these days. Everything is computerized so the state should know as soon as coverage lapses or if the car is unregistered. And with license plate readers so common now, you’d figure the police would be able to pull over people almost immediately.
Guessing it is just not profitable enough to be something the police want to do. And no one likes telling people that they can’t drive.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:38 |
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This one looks a it might be donzoe. We’ll have to see how much the unibody was twisted up.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:42 |
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How old is it? How many miles?
I suppose it wouldn’t take much to total a 10 year old six figure mileage example.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:45 |
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I have USAA as well. They are always excellent to deal with! Almost prefer stupid people who run into me to be uninsured since then I'm not required to work with their bullshit insurance company instead.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 21:47 |
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It especially pisses me off since I got a letter in the mail that my registration was going to be suspended because my insurance policy renewed and for some reason the DMV assumed it expired instead. So I had to submit proof of insurance ASAP to avoid penalties. This was entirely stupid since I’m operating 100% legally. Meanwhile people with no license nor insurance get away with it all day every day with no consequences until they hit something.
Glad I checked the mail before I left for work travel. I'm out of town now past the due date to avoid penalties. So if I hadn't seen the mail, I'd probably have just gotten pulled over at some point for illegal tags and had my Miata impounded. Which would suck!
![]() 10/10/2018 at 22:15 |
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Well that sucks! Glad your wife is ok.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 22:36 |
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Looks like the source I found was wrong. It’s a good thing I’m not a lawyer.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 23:07 |
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2009 with 120k.
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That makes this triply sad. With the current climate toward migrant people here, honestly trying to do better for themselves and those they are responsible for, things will not look good. This hurts my heart. G lad your wife is okay though for sure.
disclaimer: holy effing shit I have become hippy AF now that I have been to the mountaintop.
![]() 10/10/2018 at 23:44 |
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No DMV, LEO, financial institutions share database information until criminal charges have been proferred. This would be tantamount to pre-crime conviction/punishment.
![]() 10/11/2018 at 00:13 |
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As a resident of California before I moved here, I have seen plenty of people work their butts off to be here both legally and illegally. It’s hard when a group I try to be gracious towards comes back and bites me in the butt.
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That’s absolutely not true. Insurance companies report information to DMVs electronically. Maybe not in every state, but if not it’s because they don’t have their act together, not because of any legal concerns. DMVs share information with the police. That’s an even older practice, police have been able to look up registration data for decades. This sort of information definitely goes into LPR hot-lists. This is one reason states have been moving away from plate stickers, they can just scan the plate and see immediately if it is expired, sticker or no.
Here’s a quote from the first article that popped up for me on Google :
As soon as Smith pulled out of the borough building and onto River Street, the system automatically began scanning plates. By the time he reached the corner of River Street and Rutter Avenue, it already had a “hit.” Changing the screen from gray to yellow, the scanner indicated to Smith the car which just passed him had an expired registration.
“It’s 97 percent sure it read the plate right and it’s expired,” he said of the information displayed on the screen. “You can’t get through one turn in this town without this going off.”
He was right.
From there, Smith turned right onto Welles Street. Sitting at the light at the intersection of Welles and Wyoming Avenue, the reader let out another alert. This time, the screen flashed blue, indicating the vehicle that passed the cruiser was registered to a driver with a suspended license.
In total, the system completed 271 scans within a 10-minute ride through town, making 12 hits for potentially expired and unlicensed drivers.
Smith explained the database the system uses comes from PennDOT, which updates it once per week. Because of the lag on updates, he said that at certain times, such as the first week of a new month, the reader may be flagging a plate for an expired license, when in reality the driver has already renewed their registration. Because of this, officers will still manually verify if a plate is in violation. He also noted the database only works for vehicles with Pennsylvania plates, and cannot read plates from out-of-state.
I have no idea why you think this would be any sort of “pre-crime”. The “crime” has already happened, all that goes on with the LPR is verification. There’s no expectation of license plate privacy, nor is there any reason to expect the DMV will keep your records from law enforcement. Efficient sharing of information between agencies is not illegal, and not a 4th amendment concern.
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I was waiting for you to show up. Does that gap you see on the left side of the tailgate not scream back end is screwed up?
![]() 10/11/2018 at 00:23 |
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Ugh. That sucks but glad she’s ok.
![]() 10/11/2018 at 00:33 |
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I am too. She had to go to the hospital still, but she couldn’t help her patients without going
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I mean, it seems normal for a Telsa or FCA car, but yeah, that isn’t good.
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I know it’s hard by pictures, but what’s the chance if it being a goner?
![]() 10/11/2018 at 01:39 |
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It might be borderline indeed.
![]() 10/11/2018 at 06:08 |
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Shit I’m sorry. I’m glad everyone is physically okay
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Sorry man, that sucks. I got hit by an unin
sured driver before. He had a warrant out for his arrest too, so he wasn’t too inclined to wait for the cops. Nice fellow though, he let me take a picture of his drivers license. haha
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It’s certainly profitable enough (some cities charge absurd fines for these offenses) however I believe the main reason police don’t do this (openly, at least) is optics.
Such a system - despite its benefits in reducing u ninsured /unlicensed/suspended drivers - would never get a public green light. Police are often already seen as revenue-generating ticket writers. People on the right would say we’re living in a police state . People on the left would say the police are targeting poor people (the people most likely to let their tags expire or insurance lapse).
Again, it’s certainly an effective way, just it would never work in today’s political atmosphere. I think a maybe “softer” method may be to require “ SR-22" for everyone? Illinois’ version is pretty painless to get (the insurance company certifies on your behalf ) with the main operational difference being that if you lapse in coverage, you get your license suspended.
![]() 10/11/2018 at 09:42 |
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Oof, firstly I’m glad everyone involved is okay and the crash was resolved quickly . Secondly it doesn’t sound good for the Lex but maybe it’ll be triumphant and be able to be repaired!!
![]() 10/11/2018 at 10:02 |
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I guess the dogs are getting a press car ride now that the RX is out of commission . Living the life of luxury.
![]() 10/11/2018 at 10:46 |
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My father is a Memphis cop, with the “Blue Crush” license plate scannign system they spent millions on. It does not return uninsured motorist information on a license plate pull, this is 100% fact in the state of TN.
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IKR.
Also speaking as third gen legal immigrant and citizen
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Then it definitely seems like something they should add as they upgrade their system.
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I come from a family of total opposites as my grandma come over from Germany after WWII and on the moms great to the millionth came on the Mayflower. Come on over, just do it right.
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.......yeah because giving the police more power to imprison, fine, harass the citizenry is a good idea.
You <> Me unsubscribe
Bye, Felicia.
![]() 10/12/2018 at 10:30 |
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While I agree with doing the right thing in the process of becoming a citizen, there needs to be a hand extended to those who did not have a choice when they were brought here, those who are struggling daily to be here and take care of their families.
Middle class privilege in this situation, I am reasonably well-off, somewhat educated, and don’t have any egregious issues in my home life; yet I still struggle to get clerical things done in my life outside of school/work. (Cars need oil changes, ST needs brakes and a windshield and 100k mile service).
Consider what it might be like for a migrant worker in this country living/working illegally 12-16 hour days, while the spouse is at home dealing with the children (usually young ones).
The political entities and figureheads of this nation have forgotten the struggle of making a life for themselves and their families because of the station to which they have risen.
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:42 |
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What’s up with the wheel laying there?
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:42 |
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I missed this on the first go around. I’m glad it’s savable.
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:43 |
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The Civic went underneath the RX and ripped the spare that hangs off the rear floor off the car. My wife thought the Civic had lost a wheel at first and then eventually went, oh that’s mine haha
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:45 |
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okay that makes sense.
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I was almost kind of wishing it wasn’t because now I have to sell a car in a couple years that previously had a clean carfax and now doesn’t. Also, having my wife in a car with unseen damage from this accident doesn’t not sound appetizing. Maybe I’m being over the top.
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:47 |
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I missed this originally, I’m glad all is well! I’m surprised there aren’t more accidents in that stretch road - it’s a mess. Hate the the dude was uninsured, that’s super shitty of people. Smart move to wait to move anything until the police come.
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:48 |
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Yeah it was not fun and hasn’t been fun. That road almost got me rear- ended the other day too.
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Regular thing over there. I know there are mixed opinions on this , but I’m glad I purchased a third brake light flasher
![]() 10/24/2018 at 12:53 |
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I’m a legal alien, I’ve had a Green Ca rd for seven years. After five years you can apply for citizenship (fill out s hitload of forms and send a check for $750). Typically it used to take 3-6 months for the government to look over your application, then you wrote an exam, voila, you’re now a citizen. I appl ied 14 months ago and get an automated email monthly saying they’ve done nothing with my file. What changed? Trump. So don’t tell people to do things “the right way” when you put up barriers to do so.
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Also, is it just me or is two weeks from the date of the accident way too long to just now be finding out what the verdict is?
Heh. When my wife’s Rogue was totalled, it took them the better part of a month to make the decision on it, putting us in a crunch to find her a replacement before the rental ran out. As it was, we had to pay for a week’s rental out of pocket.
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I’ve driven cars after repairs before, although no frame damage, just body. If the shop is good, it’ll be like it never happened. Then again, I don’t sell my cars until they are pretty much done. So I see your point of view, but if the body shop is good, and your dad’s shop confirms that, at least safety and longevity shouldn’t be an issue.
Still sucks though.
![]() 10/24/2018 at 14:23 |
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Yeah I’m going to fight the insurance company for loss of value since were entitled to that in Tennessee. We shall see.
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Two weeks is far too long. My insurance company, Geico, had someone out to survey the damage within a couple days and I had an estimate in hand when they left after a couple hours . Now the whole repair and process from start to finish took nearly two months but that is due to a terrible repair shop and dealing with uninsured motorist coverage .
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Was the driver cited?
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I missed your original post, glad that your wife is fine! Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that most of the assholes drive that gen of civic?